eccu

2012

 

 

 

Executive Director
Huntersville, NC

Worship Pastor
Akron, OH

Church Administrator
Houston, TX

CEO CAM Missions
Dallas, TX

CEO Medical Ministry
Dallas, TX

 

 

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XPastor Evaluations

XP-Seminar 2007

Things I loved, that connected with me:

  • Dave Fletcher’s org. practices of defining terms, probing into statements, acknowledging complexity; questioning/interviewing times were beneficial for clarity
  • Liked the discussion in small group time; good interaction with others around the table
  • Enjoy the open dialogue and question/answer opportunities throughout the seminar, thanks!
  • Milfred’s presentation – gave me a fresh way to look at church
  • Learning some of the dynamics between Toby and Jim
  • I thoroughly enjoyed Dan Reiland’s seminar on strong personalities
  • Frank Sommerville always does a great job – the legal issues small group was very good
  • Having the principals from the case studies present
  • Providing numerous resources (reading materials, sponsors present)
  • Diversity of perspectives/styles of presenters
  • Networking – great!!
  • Taking me back to 20 years of schooling where we did case studies (out of practice)
  • Contrasting video venue strategies (Mike and Toby)
  • Senior pastor perspective on XP
  • Leadership over next 20 years discussion! (Fav of conference)
  • Small group time with Todd Wagner
  • Great exposure to relationship between Senior Pastor and X-Pastor
  • Watermark discussion
  • Fundraising workshop
  • More small group time on Thursday
  • Meeting XP’s from around the country
  • Available resources
  • Smaller group sessions with specialists
  • Case studies
  • Interviews
  • Small group
  • Lunch mentoring session
  • Warren’s morning session
  • Great day of impact (Thursday)
  • So great to be with like-minded (i.e. Kingdom minded  and familiar with the XPastor world) people
  • Wonderful access to others (speakers, participants) due to small size.
  • The honest transparency of speakers and willingness to share “trade secrets.”
  • Mentoring tools & experience of Nathan Baxter – I believe that mentoring is one of the most needed and least understood roles of church leaders. I especially appreciate Nathan’s
  • The workshop on “Building” was excellent
  • This was a valuable day of networking – thank you!
  • The morning open forum hit 3 of my 4 concerns
  • Ideas and principles from Watermark’s approach/philosophy. Wagner’s presentation was very thought provoking
  • Interaction with XP’s great
  • Broad spetrum – Buster to Slough, interesting
  • Back-to-backs – diverse presentations yet unified them. Helpful
  • Break out with David Lyons – Staffing
  • Lunch session on mentoring
  • Small group connections with other XPastors
  • Networking
  • David Lyons discussion group
  • Case studies and discussions
  • David’s leadership
  • Raising funds workshop
  • Mentoring resources breakout
  • Presentation of Bob Feitl in morning session – excellent info!
  • Case study, presentation and discussion of Watermark
  • Time around the table for discussion
  • Honesty about Watermark’s ordeal
  • Table discussions about case and current concerns in our churchs
  • To see the relationships between SP and XP (Toby and Jim) (Ron and Bill) (Mark and Matt). The living examples and interactions were wonderful!
  • I got the opportunity to hook up with likeminded brother
  • The case studies and methodology definitely open up new avenues of thought/learning
  • Time in morning with Brad Leeper’s group
  • Legal issue and discussion with Todd Wagner
  • Relevance of morning discussion group
  • Hearing the passion and heart of Todd Wagner
  • Resources provided by Nathan at lunch
  • Dan Reiland was awesome in “partnering with a strong leader”
  • Orthodoxy vs. orthopraxy
  • Organizing body – Ex. 18 Principle
  • Campus pastors are the pastors for teacher/preacher pastors
  • Central support vs. central control
  • The missional church description – outstanding!
  • Milfred’s content
  • Bill Northrop’s practicality. (Not theory.) Their lessons were very helpful
  • Large group resentations and small group follow up
  • Prayer over each presenter
  • The case study format – transparency/openness
  • Talking with guys at the table
  • Presenters sparked thoughts/ideas apart from presentation
  • Real life stories and examples
  • Sr and XP interaction at lunch
  • The wide range of varieties and different exposures of ministry and situations. I loved the differences.
  • Small group discussion with an expert are excellent
  • Interaction between Toby and XP
  • Working lunch
  • Good interaction between David and Speaker – kept them from going off; and asking the questions that many people would like to ask.
  • The large group forum with Warren was excellent.
  • Meeting other XPs and SR Pastors
  • Hearing Prestonwood vs. Cross Timbers Approach
  • Meeting other Sr. Pastors/ XP
  • Perspectives from David Lyons on hiring
  • Bob Feitl’s small group was excellent, extremely helpful.
  • Lunch Session
  • Session (breakout) in the AM on Thursday
  • Relevant case studies
  • Multi-Site Models – I liked hearing two very different models
  • The frank and honest discussion
  • Opportunities to meet and greet other attendees
  • Common challenges with peers
  • Being able to ask questions of the speakers
  • The 9 cultural checkponts – great stuff!
  • Continuous re-enforcement of cultural DNA
  • Interactive discussions
  • Discussions of senior pastor/XP relationships
  • Meeting other XP’s
  • Building relational contacts
  • Hearing different perspectives on leadership
  • Mike Buster’s philosophy guides
  • Discussion on multiple sites was excellent. I appreciated the two different approaches
  • Honesty about failures, things that didn’t work
  • Different methods/approaches to achieve the same result
  • Interactive discussion with Mark Carey and Mark Brewster
  • My conversations with Nathan Baxter
  • The transparency of the presenters was touching.
  • The missional church session really ministered to me.
  • The informal discussion method was quite different to what I’m accustomed in a seminar/conference. To my surprise, I retained a great deal.
  • Realistic sessions that deals with day to day church issues
  • Practical solutions
  • Openness, transparency and honestly of speakers
  • Discussions held between Senior Pastor and Executive Pastor
  • Case studies are excellent and beneficial
  • Liked the look at what churches are doing – hearing
  • Liked the case studies
  • XP gives e lots of options to consider
  • Enjoyed the back to back case studies
  • Discussion time
  • Bill Northrop/Ron Moore – timely information for our church
  • Mike Busters presentation on one church/multiple vocations
  • Exposure to ideas different from my church background and culture
  • Vulnerability of speakers, their transparency
  • David’s style, demeanor, attitude, and obvious care
  • The entire set of hospitality provisions, sponsors, books, (I’m a former camp director) refreshments, etc.
  • Your gracious and generous connecting me with Warren Schuh and Nathan Baxter
  • Warren Schuh – Tie with Large churches
  • The need to know my ministry DNA
  • I like the format
  • Staying true to vision
  • Conversations with the Marks (lunch)
  • Transparency of all speakers
  • Contrast of Prestonwood and Cross Timbers back to back. Excellent
  • Pre-reading, case studies
  • Prayer for each presenter
  • Networking with others
  • Ministers gave strong presentation
  • I enjoyed the relational setup of the meeting room (round tables)
  • The case study format is engaging
  • Hearing case studies – inspired new ideas and ways to do things
  • Networking – discussions at the table
  • Discussion on the change created in establishing XP at a church
  • Building issues with Ron and Bill
  • Realization of common struggle – answers
  • Central command vs. central support
  • Remove barriers to worship – remove paradigms
  • Mike Buster’s presentation on second site process
  • Mark and Mar’s presentation on SP/XP and trust level
  • Overall impressed with candor and openness of presenters!
  • Acquire don’t merge
  • Stick to your dna
  • Central support vs. central control
  • Having the two multi-sites back to back
  • Providing numerous resource (reading materials, sponsors present)
  • Diversity of perspectives/styles of presenters
  • Toby – his openness with his struggles; his passion for the lost and recovering
  • Mike Buster – vision and passion for ministry via the new remote church model
  • Ron and Bill – their process and compassion while procession growth
  • Minatrea – awesome!
  • Case study read-aheads
  • Cross Timbers candid discourse with US (Toby and Jim)
  • Organization and admin of the conference
  • I love getting with these guys and sharing
  • Table discussion on video venue
  • Mentoring resources
  • Don Reiland group was very helpful
  • Don Reiland – fantastic time together, priceless take-aways from this one!
  • Todd Wagner – this was a challenging case study. I enjoyed Todd’s passion and integrity and biblical grounding.
  • Toby’s heart
  • The fact that David stands there and asks questions on everything.
  • Fletcher’s discussion on leadership
  • Hearing about church discipline from someone who really does it.
  • Mentoring session with Baxter
  • Hearing other’s stories (how similar they are to mine)
  • All speakers had a good “mission” “spiritual” base and motivation
  • David’s facilitating is excellent – both presentations and interview style reading
  • Toby’s time – DNA – Spend more time with XP
  • Staffing seminar was great! Loved discussion format
  • Wagner’s session great for discussion, he really brought great spiritual emphasis.
  • Mike Buster “We’re not a mega church, we’re a multi-program ministry church
  • Toby Slough – “the only non-negotiable is the vision”
  • Do you have centralized support or control?
  • Confirming my need to firm up my XP role and our senior pastor to firm up his.
  • Spending money in hiring vs. spending money in employing and then firing
  • Toby/virtual – attracting is not the same as reaching. Central support vs. central control. Identify your DNA – be true with it. Remove barriers.
  • Pittsburg – South Hills – wonderful reality check/honesty of the men/helpful.
  • Milfred’s input; data heavy yet did cause me to want to get the book.
  • David’s casual/inclusive style and demeanor and excellence in asking questions we’d like to ask in the case stud “live” presentations
  • Free books
  • Watermark case – real world application of biblical principles.
  • Mark Brewster and Mark Carey – real life struggle in hiring
  • Ron Moore and Bill Northrop – “Life beyond the walls”
  • The number and variety of sponsors – gets better each year!
  • In our breakout the leader (Lyons) was an excellent facilitator – he added to other people’s comments and expertise. I felt I got some very good info from multiple sources.
  • Meeting and speaking individually with pastors with same issues and sharing ideas
  • Personal stories of change from different men
  • This is my first time. I will come again next year. I started as an XP just 11 months ago.
  • Todd Wagner – Very proactive and in surprising ways
  • Thanks once again for creating a network and environment for growth in God’s Kingdom.
  • Though I knew of the resources (Thursday morning), it went deeper
  • Seems like having presentation each year on building/construction is appropriate, these are always people doing that!
  • Happy with the entire day!
  • I really like seeing XPastors and Sr. Pastors interact
  • David, thanks for all of your efforts. This seminar is very helpful
  • Good job with facilities; comfortable… just the right degree of intimacy
  • Very good conference
  • The case studies were excellent in getting a little more real and deeper view of the churches/leaders. It provided valuable principles and action points.
  • Important part of my journal whether to the point of an XPastor position or not. Value to my walk with God.
  • Thanks again for putting together a great conference. We are looking forward to coming again.
  • Our first XPastor conference – thanks for providing this great resource
  • Have seen the hearts of the XP and their desire to score a lead
  • I applaud your courage on the Watermark case study. Great discussion!
  • Good use of scheduled time together; ratio of meetings to breaks to table time
  • I enjoyed having Sr. Pastor and Exec. Pastor discussing an issue together in large sessions.
  • Enjoyable and I learned-a lot!! Great and helpful info, in the notebook to study later
  • My senior pastor should have been here with me. You may want to encourage seniors coming with their executives.. overall this seminar was helpful. Time well spent!
  • The Watermark case study was very useful. Though I agreed with very little of how they handled it, I appreciate their conviction, and the followup discussion caused us to wonder what we would have done.
  • The content was great. The greatest value for me, however, was networking with guys who are experienced or have experienced what I am.
  • Love and appreciate the diversity of the group as a whole!
  • I loved the conference style and set-up. The case studies are informative and thought provoking.
  • The topics discussed were great and helpful. it opened a new horizon of thinking pattern and mindset.
  • Milfred – very valuable! And timely!
  • I’ve been to a lot of conventions/conferences for a variety of purposes and this is a well planned, prepared for and executed as any of them. Well done; thank you.
  • This is wonderful
  • The question and answer presentation format where David leads the presentation by asking the presenter (s) questions is excellent.
  • Great stuff!! Wish I was 20 years younger with the information I have received at two of your seminars. Thank you!!!
  • Love it!!!
  • Love the location – hope it stays in Dallas
  • I am somewhat surprised by how many churches are actively pursuing multi-site venues – very cool.

Other comments

  • Thanks once again for creating a network and environment for growth in God’s Kingdom. I’d love to help if you would ever need help.
  • Idea – is small church going the way of the small farm? Idea – is legal profession scaring us from ministry?
  • Thanks for diving deeper into the cases today. Great interaction. This has been an amazing resource! Thank you for your foresight and tenacity for creating XPastor, including this conference. I look forward to partnering with you for years to come.
  • Idea – How do you form a relationship with the SP?
  • Idea – Is effectiveness as an XP inherited or earned?
  • Case study – New Senior Pastor. XP and 3 other pastors already on staff. All the other pastors were from in the body. Plus following a sr. pastor who had been asked to leave. First time I was part of a multi-step
  • I would like to hear other experience/words of wisdom regarding how to attach younger people while not alienating more conservative members of the congregation whom have been the backbone and supporters of the church for years.
  • If you think our transition from strong Elder board/struggling SP to Struggling SP/mis-gifted XP to New Strong SP/Exec. Team (still with strong elder board) is a good case, I think we’d be willing. We’ve also been operating about 10 years in violation of the “80% rule” – and fairly positively so. David – Todd himself elicited some strong and unexpected reactions – I’d like to discuss when you come to CS. Thanks for all!

Things I would like to change:

  • A little more time to table-talk
  • Having even more time to connect with fellow attendees to “compare notes”
  • More small groups
  • Would like to see a couple of small group/breakout sessions as there were at least two topics that I wanted to attend!
  • 5 functions – would be very effective as a break-out small group with new XPs
  • Would like more SG discussions of maybe 1 or 2 issues raised by case studies.
  • More breakout sessions
  • More time on what an XP does for new XP’s
  • Milfred was excellent – more time needed for his presentation
  • Staff development concepts
  • Staff (volunteer) recruiting
  • Maybe add an additional day
  • Being new to XP concept, more info on 5 functions, maybe ina discussion group
  • Nice to have a place where XP’s and pastors who are searching for the other to intentionally meet and dialogue
  • More on SP/ XP relationship
  • The legal session was great. Frank started by asking us what we wanted to discuss so that he met our needs. Caused me to rethink many areas.
  • I may be an odd duck but it seems that this would be a great venue to speak more biblical and theological truth into these men – including me, knowing many do not have such training
  • A session on mentoring (Nathan) and coaching (Warren)
  • More on legal issues with sexual harassment issues or confidentially issues
  • One thing I would like to see next year is at least a bit of emphasis on how to stay spiritual in the midst of all the details.